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April 28th, 2024 at 4:35:59 PM permalink
I walk up to a roulette table and see the stats say 17 is cold and hasn’t hit in the last 50 spins. I then bet on 17 for another 52 spins of the wheel. When calculating the probability of a number to not hit, does it make any sense to use 102 spins as opposed to the 52 that I actively bet on.
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April 28th, 2024 at 4:54:12 PM permalink
I figure it could be cold for up to 210 spins, but that's just me and bad stats. I'd need to be ready for another 160 dead spins. I don't have a progression to beat that.
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April 28th, 2024 at 5:11:30 PM permalink
It's not unusual for a number to sleep for 400 spins.
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April 28th, 2024 at 5:13:46 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It's not unusual for a number to sleep for 400 spins.
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Something like 0.09% that at least one number doesn’t appear in the next 400 spins.
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April 28th, 2024 at 7:01:02 PM permalink
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I walk up to a roulette table and see the stats say 17 is cold and hasn’t hit in the last 50 spins. I then bet on 17 for another 52 spins of the wheel. When calculating the probability of a number to not hit, does it make any sense to use 102 spins as opposed to the 52 that I actively bet on.
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No, because "the probability of a number not hitting in 102 consecutive spins" and "the probability of a number not hitting in 102 consecutive spins given that it has already not hit in the first 50 of those 102 spins" are two entirely different things.
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April 28th, 2024 at 7:59:41 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

Quote: EvenBob

It's not unusual for a number to sleep for 400 spins.
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Something like 0.09% that at least one number doesn’t appear in the next 400 spins.
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Yep, but you would be amazed at how often a single number will sleep for hundreds of spins. 150 spins could easily be 5 hours at a brick and mortar Casino.
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April 29th, 2024 at 5:08:52 AM permalink
It is important to remember that each spin of roulette is independent of previous spins. Just because the number 17 didn't come up in the last 50 times, doesn't increase its chances in the next spin. It is best to bet based on your strategy and bankroll, not on past results.
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May 12th, 2024 at 9:32:42 AM permalink
Quote: Morstana

It is important to remember that each spin of roulette is independent of previous spins. Just because the number 17 didn't come up in the last 50 times, doesn't increase its chances in the next spin. It is best to bet based on your strategy and bankroll, not on past results.
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It’s also important to remember that the only reason each spin is independent is because of random rotor speed. Otherwise a roulette wheel is as random as my comments and what each one of my posts are about.
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May 12th, 2024 at 1:22:24 PM permalink
This is interesting because I see a lot of repetition on the automated roulette wheels that have deep pockets. Ideally I’ll find one that uses a Huxley wheel so the ball has more action.
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May 12th, 2024 at 2:28:18 PM permalink
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When calculating the probability of a number to not hit, does it make any sense to use 102 spins as opposed to the 52 that I actively bet on.
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Do not consider old spins. In double-zero roulette, the probability of a specific number not hitting in 52 spins is (37/38)^52=24.99%.
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